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- From: Innovision Concepts Limited <Keith@innov.demon.co.uk>
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- Subject: Re: Miami - a new TCP/IP stack for Internet access
- Date: Thu, 18 Apr 96 08:23:22 GMT
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- On or around Tue, 16 Apr 96, Joseph Waldvogel is alledged to have
- muttered something along the lines of -
-
- JW>
- JW> >Per Jacobsen (perjac@inet.uni-c.dk) wrote:
- JW>
- JW> >: > - MUI as the GUI engine. There is no other GUI engine that even remotely
- JW> >: > offers the features MUI does, and the decision to use MUI is final.
- JW>
- JW> >: Ok, i'll say it here then. Please make sure you make the interface
- JW> >: properly, I'm tired of slopply MUI programs where the interface gets
- JW> >: scaled down to using a topaz 4 (four!) font, making the display totally
- JW> >: unreadable. I've been considering registering AmiFTP, but each time i
- JW> >: click on the register button i reg screen comes up and its in topaz/4 and
- JW> >: totally unreadable and i think..."No thanks"
- JW>
- JW> >Well, I'll put in my two cents worth...
- JW> >I hate MUI. Its nice for a few things, but greatly overated and overused.
- JW> >Personally, I've always been a little bothered by people who couldnt
- JW> >write their own code. And MUI is a memory hog....
- JW> >I'll just be glad when I can get it off of my HD, and find replacements
- JW> >for the few remaining programs that utilize it.
- JW>
- JW> Yet another MUI hater, for no good reson. If MUI is such a memory HOG, then how
- JW> come MUI can run on a 2 meg Amiga with INET-225 and a Web Browser, or FTP or IRC
- JW> program at the same time? The days of 512K 68000 Amiga's are long gone.
- JW> MUI is quite fast on my 030/50Mzh system, doesn't use that much ram at all, I
- JW> use quite a few MUI programs, and many at once, Multi programs running at once
- JW> use even LESS memory then a non MUI program!!!
- JW>
- JW> For what Miami needs MUI for to configure the software, it's just fine. Using
- JW> some other GUI is not going to Make the program All that faster on SLOW Amiga's!
- JW> MUI is just the GUI, what counts is the Main program behind, that is doing all
- JW> the work. MUI for a Browser can be slow on a slow Amiga, but for a TCP/225
- JW> program, it's not a big deal what gui he happens to use. I've tryed out the
- JW> Install program and it's quite FAST! I havn't had a crash from a MUI program
- JW> for quite some time. A very long time in fact.
- JW>
- JW>
- JW> >However, good luck on the package. The more software there is available,
- JW> >the greater the chance of there being some real gems out there! And I
- JW> >like having more of my brothers in the online comunity! Its about time
- JW> >that the amiga users begin to come into their own....
- JW>
- JW> My brother was saying all this crap about how Connecting to the Internet on the
- JW> Mac was a Pain, unlike using American Online, well he just got a ISP today,
- JW> Picked up the Software, Clicked on Install, that was IT, Everything was already
- JW> setup for the ISP, the Number. Easyer to setup then it was for American Online.
- JW> You look at AmiTCP for the Amiga, it's a nightmare for most Amiga users. People
- JW> keep asking the same questions over and over again.. it's just not EASY to
- JW> setup, it's hard, plain and simple, almost mad me wish I had a MAC, or a
- JW> PC. Gezz, Miami is so SIMPLE to setup. a 8 year old could do it!
- JW> It's even SIMPLE if you want to use SLIRP or TIA! It does all the hard work for
- JW> you. With the Easy to configure setup, and the LOW price, Unlike AmiTCP, don't
- JW> know about INET-225, this can get a great many Amiga users onto the Internet.
- JW>
- JW> Last but not least, there's full PPP support, no need to go and pay for the
- JW> ppp.device. It'll support all the latest ppp stuff. So not only are you saving
- JW> a lot for the High cost of AmiTCP, but also the extra cost for the registered
- JW> ppp.device.
- JW>
- JW>
- JW> All I can say is, wait untel it's Released and try it yourself. I mean if you
- JW> get this BAD impressions on MUI programs because your using beta versions, what
- JW> can you expect. AmIRC and AmFTP are Crash Proof. The versions on AmiNet.
- JW> If you were using Beta before hand, well what can you expect. Same goes with
- JW> AMosiac which was/is still beta, and even Ibrowse is beta. I've never had any
- JW> problems with any mui program that has ever been posted on Aminet when it was
- JW> finally Released in NON-BETA form.
- JW>
- JW>
- JW> Ya, you just hate mui because it's mui, no other reson other then it's mui.
- JW> Other GUI's use just as much memory and can be just as slow on a slow amiga and
- JW> other amiga gui's that can do most of what mui can do.
- JW>
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